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Hall Effect for General B REVIEWED
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Phil's note dated 4.1.14 and reviewed 5/6/14, from the transmission lines Appendix N on Drude and Hall. It works out the magnetic Ohm's Law for a B field in any direction in a long rectangular conductor, with Hall fields in the transverse directions. It then checks where Chapter 1 and Appendix D of his lines document use regular Ohm's Law. It concludes that regular Ohm's Law holds for copper when B is much less than about 569 tesla and ωτ is much less than 1, which also covers AC up to roughly 10^13 Hz.
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Hall Effect for General B PhL 4.1.14
Reviewed 5/6/14. This is an important document. In Section 1 I reconsider the Hall effect for the B field in an arbitrary direction. But I put this development on hold while in Section 2 I study my existing use of regular Ohm's Law in lines doc Chapter 1 and Appendix D (the two places I guess I use it). I fear that all of lines doc is wrong because I failed to use the "magnetic Ohm's Law". But then in Section 3 I resume where I left off in Section 1 and I conclude that regular Ohm's Law is "in general" OK to use as long as the G field is less than 569 tesla ! I just wrote this all up as new Section N.8 and added it to lines doc!
1. Hall Effect with General B 1
2. Digression: Review of the Use of Ohm's Law in Chapter 1 and then Appendix D 2
3. Go back to Magnetic Ohm's Law again. We had for time-static situation that 3
1. Hall Effect with General B
I am here trying to keep the same Hall Effect picture as now in Appendix N, but B is in an arbitrary direction instead of just in the z direction.
Consider the Hall effect where we change from the earlier figure so now a rectangular conductor runs in the z direction and x and y are transverse directions, as in our transmission line analysis. In fact, let's make it very long relative to its transverse dimensions. What can we say about the Magnetic Ohm's Law in this situation?
We start with the following, using κ ≡ 1/μ.
κ v = E + v x B 1
where now B is an arbitrary applied B field. At any point inside the conductor, it has some magnitude and direction, so B is a completely general B(r), subject to the requirement that div B = 0 . If this external field comes from some physical source, we know that div B = 0 will be respected.
Then using 1,2,3 as r,θ,z we can say
κvi = Ei + εijkvjBk
so
κv1 = E1 + v2B3-v3B2
κv2 = E2 + v3B1-v1B3
κv3 = E3 + v1B2-v2B1 2
We know that Ji = nqvi. We will be looking for a Maxwell-Equations solution inside the conductor which has J1 = 0 and J2 = 0, so no transverse currents at surface or interior. This means v1= 0 and v2= 0. In this case, the above equations simplify to these
0 = E1 - v3B2
0 = E2 + v3B1
κv3 = E3
Notice that component B3 plays no role in the solution. We then have
E1 = B2 v3 J1 = nqv1 = 0
E2 = -B1v3 J2 = nqv2 = 0
E3 = κ v3 J3 = nqv3 = (nqμ)E3 = σ E3
no current densities in the transverse directions 1 and 3
normal Ohm's Law in the 3 direction
Hall fields in both transverse directions, E1 and E2
We shall seek a solution in which v3 = constant, to see if such a solution exists. We have already assumed that div B = 0 for the applied B field, so we have three other DC Maxwell equations to check out.
curl B = μ0J
curl E = 0
div E = 0
Let's now make these definitions:
B1 = B field that would be generated by our conductor with current I in isolation
B2 = the applied external field
B = B1+ B2 = the total magnetic field.
We now want to face the idea of two superposed problems.
2. Digression: Review of the Use of Ohm's Law in Chapter 1 and then Appendix D
Motivation: When I was writing this, I was thinking I wrongly used "regular" Ohm's Law in various places in lines doc. I have since realized that regular Ohm's Law is OK up to something like 160 GHz. I first here scan Chapter 1 of lines doc, then Appendix D.
I am looking at where Ohm's Law is used in lines doc Chapter 1.
Section 1.1. It is stated and commented on. I guess I need to add some magnetic extra words in that comment! (but not yet) . This is comment 8. I see now further use of Ohm in the rest of this section.
Section 1.2 field wave equations -- NOT used, only Maxwell's are used
Section 1.3 potential wave equations.
(a) -- NOT used
(b) relativity, not used
(c) used for the first time just above (1.3.19). We are in the dielectric. Consider:
κ v = E + v x B
I can argue that the dielectric is only very weakly conducting, so v is extremely small, so this equation simplifies to κv = E and this gives the regular Ohm's Law which I use there. This is for region 1 which is the dielectric. For region 2 and region 3 I don't use Ohm's Law to eliminate the current, so these conclusions I think are OK:
(2 - μ1ε1 ∂t2 - μ1σ1∂t ) A = 0 region 1
(2 - μ1ε1 ∂t2 - μ1σ1∂t ) A = - μ2J2 region 2
(2 - μ1ε1 ∂t2 - μ1σ1∂t ) A = - μ3J3 region 3 (1.3.21)
We combine these into a single equation which is then valid over all of region R,
(2 - μ1ε1 ∂t2 - μ1σ1) A = - μ2J2 - μ3J3 all of region R (1.3.22)
Potential Wave Equations in the King Gauge (1.3.28)
(2 - μ1ε1 ∂t2 - μ1σ1∂t)φ = - (1/ε1) Σi=2N+1ρi all of region R (1.3.27)
(2 - μ1ε1 ∂t2 - μ1σ1∂t)A = - Σi=2N+1 μiJi all of region R (1.3.23)
div A = - μ1ε1 ∂tφ - μ1σ1φ King gauge (1.3.18)
So all of the above is OK on Ohm, given that small v in the dielectric.
But now we continue on toward the end of section (c) way down starting with (1.3.35). Here I am suddenly talking about E and B wave equations again. I think (1.3.35) is OK and Ohm has not been used yet, although I state Ohm right there.
But now (1.3.36) HAS used regular Ohm's Law, so we are getting into trouble here. Here I am using Ohm in all three regions! I am getting into trouble because when these E and B field equations go into the ω domain, we get into Appendix D and things are affected. But be patient.
Section 1.4 retarded solutions -- no mention of Ohm.
Section 1.5
(a) going now into the ω domain! The potential wave equations (1.5.3 etc are all OK because they come from (1.3.28) above which is OK. The small v in dielectric is saving us here.
(b) Helm integral stuff all OK, no Ohm used
(c) King leading factor stuff. Below Fig 1.7 I mention Ohm. Lots or σ stuff. I guess I have to appeal to the "low ω" argument to justify this section.
(d) here (1.5.25) and (1.5.27) are OK, but (1.5.27) has assumed general Ohm's Law. All else is OK then except the final (1.5.32) where we need the large ω argument to survive.
The rest of Chapter 1 is then OK.
Appendix D: Right off the bat I am using (1.3.36) which, as just noted above, assumes regular Ohm's Law. So all of Appendix D lies under this cloud and I have to clarify the "low ω" argument in order to save this appendix!
3. Go back to Magnetic Ohm's Law again. We had for time-static situation that
κv1 = E1 + v2B3-v3B2
κv2 = E2 + v3B1-v1B3
κv3 = E3 + v1B2-v2B1 2
Maple solves this problem for the three vi as follows: [ this is in hall3.mws ]
Now how can I write this in terms of things like ωcτ ?? I did this in Appendix N for the simple Hall case. Recall that
ωcτ = μB = B/κ => ωciτ = μBi = Bi/κ
so we have an ωc for each direction and at each point in space ωci(r) . In appendix N I just replaced the B field with the ωc stuff, so let's do that same thing for each Bi component here. Well, if I do that for V1 I get this for J3:
I will write this out:
num J3 = σ [ E3 + (ω2τ)E1 - (ω1τ)E2 + (ω1τ) (ω3τ)E1 + (ω2τ) (ω3τ)E2 + (ω3τ)3 E3 ]
= σ [ E3{1 + (ω3τ)3} + E1{ (ω2τ) + (ω1τ) (ω3τ) } + E2 { -(ω1τ) + (ω2τ) (ω3τ) } ]
den J3 = 1 + (ω1τ)2 + (ω2τ)2 + (ω3τ)2
So if we can assume that ωiτ << 1 for all three components, then we just get
J3 = σE3
and this is then the generalization of what happens in Appendix N. If I now set τ = 0, I get the regular Ohm's law in all three directions, I just did this in Maple to make sure. This is the same as making all three B fields be very small, and then
κ v = E + v x B => κ v = E => J = σ E
So what I really need is a condition that B be "small".
ωciτ = μBi = Bi/κ << 1 Bi= κ (ωiτ)
This then requires that
Bi << κ κ = 1/μ μ = (qτ/m) κ = (m/qτ)
so we need then
Bi << (m/qτ) // I will evaluate this below
This has nothing to do with operating frequency ω, we are at DC here!
Let's go back now to AC. We then have
m = qE + qvxB - (m/τ) v . (N.1.5)
or
mjωv = qE + qvxB - (m/τ) v
m(1/τ + jω) v = qE + qvxB
(m/τ) (1 + jωτ) v = qE + qvxB
(m/qτ) (1 + jωτ) v = E + vxB
κ(1 + jωτ) v = E + vxB
So this is the same as the static case but we have to take
κ → (1+jωτ) κ
But then we make our "frequency argument" that ωτ << 1 for our interests. Then we can use the DC results for everything regarding "magnetic Ohm's Law"! So you need both this AND the following condition.
Here now is a condition I developed for when regular Ohm's Law is OK :
Now back to the small Bi field idea! We need:
Bi << (m/qτ) ie Bi << κ ie μBi << 1
in order to assume regular Ohm's Law. But for copper this is just a fixed number. Here it is:
Thus, as long as Bi << 569 Tesla's, we are OK on regular Ohm's Law!!! A huge MRI machine is only about 3 Tesla.
So here are some conclusions:
(1) Ohm's Law in the presence of a general magnetic field B is quite complicated. For example,
If we replace the Bi fields in favor of their cyclotron frequencies, Bi= κ (ωiτ) , we then get
For example, this says
J1 = σ
(2) If we then assume that (ωiτ) << 1 for each component of the B field, and that none of the Ei are absurdly large, we end up with "regular Ohm's Law" which is this,
which is to say, J = σE .
(3) The condition that (ωiτ) << 1 is the same as Bi << κ = (m/qτ) = 1/μ. For copper we find that this conditions says
Bi << 569 Tesla
The largest B fields in general use for anything on earth might be 10 T, and a transmission line B field will be much smaller than that, so this condition is met in any practical situation.
(4) Therefore, regular Ohm's Law may be used in any DC situation (with isotropic media, etc etc).
(5) What about AC? The equation of motion is adjusted in this case such that κ → (1+jωτ) κ . We can then use our DC result as long as ωτ << 1 which roughly means ω << 1013 Hz = 10,000 GHz. So again, for practical systems operating at AC frequencies of interest, regular Ohm's Law can be assumed!
(6) When we are studying Hall effect situations, we must use the exact Magnetic Ohm's Law in order to obtain the Hall fields.